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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://citizenagency.wordpress.com/2006/06/11/what-would-represent-you/#comment-446</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 05:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not use something that is consistent across multiple uses, but allows some customization.  For example, why not allow each &quot;agent&quot; to draft their own variation on a common theme based upon a basic concept:

&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.mycuriouslife.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/citizenagency.gif&#039; / rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mycuriouslife.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/citizenagency.gif&lt;/a&gt;

In the linked example, the Citizen Agency banner and concept of an avatar-like image would be consistently used, but each agent could customize their avatar to look the way they want.  The overall Citizen Agency logo could be the banner with a collection of varied avatars collected above it in a sort of group pose.

Might be kind of a fun way to represent both Citizen Agency and allow its agents to represent themselves as members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not use something that is consistent across multiple uses, but allows some customization.  For example, why not allow each &#8220;agent&#8221; to draft their own variation on a common theme based upon a basic concept:</p>
<p><a href='http://www.mycuriouslife.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/citizenagency.gif' / rel="nofollow">http://www.mycuriouslife.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/citizenagency.gif</a></p>
<p>In the linked example, the Citizen Agency banner and concept of an avatar-like image would be consistently used, but each agent could customize their avatar to look the way they want.  The overall Citizen Agency logo could be the banner with a collection of varied avatars collected above it in a sort of group pose.</p>
<p>Might be kind of a fun way to represent both Citizen Agency and allow its agents to represent themselves as members.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron van den Boogaard</title>
		<link>http://citizenagency.wordpress.com/2006/06/11/what-would-represent-you/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron van den Boogaard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A circle outline seems the only thing possible. Color can differ on occasion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A circle outline seems the only thing possible. Color can differ on occasion</p>
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		<title>By: David Swedlow</title>
		<link>http://citizenagency.wordpress.com/2006/06/11/what-would-represent-you/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>David Swedlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.mikons.com/people/OpposableMind/

I&#039;m no good with drawing vectors yet. The concept is the all-seeing eye/pyramid thingy inverted and reprioritized.

I&#039;m thinking about getting that idea working a bit better and using it as a symbol for Opposable Mind. I tell you what though... you want it, it&#039;s yours. I really like what I&#039;m reading so far about Citizen Agency. There&#039;s a lot there that resonates loud and clear with me.

It&#039;s kind of like the complement of king of the mountain. Respecting the sovereignty of all.

Can&#039;t wait to play with y&#039;all in this realm.

- David</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m no good with drawing vectors yet. The concept is the all-seeing eye/pyramid thingy inverted and reprioritized.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking about getting that idea working a bit better and using it as a symbol for Opposable Mind. I tell you what though&#8230; you want it, it&#8217;s yours. I really like what I&#8217;m reading so far about Citizen Agency. There&#8217;s a lot there that resonates loud and clear with me.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of like the complement of king of the mountain. Respecting the sovereignty of all.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait to play with y&#8217;all in this realm.</p>
<p>- David</p>
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		<title>By: Shazz</title>
		<link>http://citizenagency.wordpress.com/2006/06/11/what-would-represent-you/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Shazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 04:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did my thesis on social marketing &amp; community education, already read your stuff on pinko [etc] marketing -- we&#039;re not in disagreement here.  I just see this good new inclusive(?) marketing stuff as evolution not r-evolution ... standing on the shoulders of lots of good ideas and proven techniques (and natural failures) before it. I&#039;m also very wary of Great New Things ... it&#039;s usually the culmination of many good little kinda-new things. Giving props where they&#039;re due.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did my thesis on social marketing &amp; community education, already read your stuff on pinko [etc] marketing &#8212; we&#8217;re not in disagreement here.  I just see this good new inclusive(?) marketing stuff as evolution not r-evolution &#8230; standing on the shoulders of lots of good ideas and proven techniques (and natural failures) before it. I&#8217;m also very wary of Great New Things &#8230; it&#8217;s usually the culmination of many good little kinda-new things. Giving props where they&#8217;re due.</p>
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		<title>By: /pd</title>
		<link>http://citizenagency.wordpress.com/2006/06/11/what-would-represent-you/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>/pd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This &lt;a href=&quot;http://peterdawson.blogspot.com/2006/06/i-am.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;represents &lt;/a&gt; me :)-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This <a href="http://peterdawson.blogspot.com/2006/06/i-am.html" rel="nofollow">represents </a> me <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> -</p>
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		<title>By: I am a citizen and I have agency at FactoryCity</title>
		<link>http://citizenagency.wordpress.com/2006/06/11/what-would-represent-you/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>I am a citizen and I have agency at FactoryCity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 00:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ah, and if you have an idea of what kind of symbol might represent this idea, we&#8217;re all eyes.  Tags: citizen agency, community model, open source, pinko marketing, tara hunt [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ah, and if you have an idea of what kind of symbol might represent this idea, we&#8217;re all eyes.  Tags: citizen agency, community model, open source, pinko marketing, tara hunt [...]</p>
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		<title>By: missrogue</title>
		<link>http://citizenagency.wordpress.com/2006/06/11/what-would-represent-you/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>missrogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shazz,

We aren&#039;t caught up in anything. Practically, &#039;traditional&#039; processes have their place, we are just not about them. Proven or not (I would, however, love to see actual stats where traditional processes were actually proven - it seems that many equate the grandfather process with proven).

I agree that good &#039;branding&#039; is exactly that. I actually say that. Unfortunately, many concentrate on the fabrication of brands - in boardrooms, with thinktanks...not the same as doing.

You may want to read my post on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.horsepigcow.com/2006/01/marketing-in-post-cluetrain-era.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Community Marketing&lt;/a&gt; for a further explanation of what my philosophy is about or visit &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pinkomarketing.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Pinko Marketing wiki&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shazz,</p>
<p>We aren&#8217;t caught up in anything. Practically, &#8216;traditional&#8217; processes have their place, we are just not about them. Proven or not (I would, however, love to see actual stats where traditional processes were actually proven &#8211; it seems that many equate the grandfather process with proven).</p>
<p>I agree that good &#8216;branding&#8217; is exactly that. I actually say that. Unfortunately, many concentrate on the fabrication of brands &#8211; in boardrooms, with thinktanks&#8230;not the same as doing.</p>
<p>You may want to read my post on <a href="http://www.horsepigcow.com/2006/01/marketing-in-post-cluetrain-era.html" rel="nofollow">Community Marketing</a> for a further explanation of what my philosophy is about or visit <a href="http://www.pinkomarketing.com" rel="nofollow">the Pinko Marketing wiki</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Shazz</title>
		<link>http://citizenagency.wordpress.com/2006/06/11/what-would-represent-you/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Shazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,
Re your comment:

&quot;And at the same time, the work itself is the &#039;brand&#039;. If we do terrible work or unethical work, that symbol becomes tarnished…like many symbols in history. So that the symbol isn&#039;t what people get behind - it is the work…the proof in the pudding. The symbol only serves to give a quick representation so that we can recognize one another in an instance.&quot;

that&#039;s what (even) traditional branding is - consumers don&#039;t get their heart pumping about a logo, it&#039;s what&#039;s behind the logo (good or bad) that gets loyalty (or distaste) from them.

not sure why Yers get caught up in dissing traditional and proven process - it&#039;s usually the content and the context of the communications that&#039;s new and original, not the process. 

Shazz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,<br />
Re your comment:</p>
<p>&#8220;And at the same time, the work itself is the &#8216;brand&#8217;. If we do terrible work or unethical work, that symbol becomes tarnished…like many symbols in history. So that the symbol isn&#8217;t what people get behind &#8211; it is the work…the proof in the pudding. The symbol only serves to give a quick representation so that we can recognize one another in an instance.&#8221;</p>
<p>that&#8217;s what (even) traditional branding is &#8211; consumers don&#8217;t get their heart pumping about a logo, it&#8217;s what&#8217;s behind the logo (good or bad) that gets loyalty (or distaste) from them.</p>
<p>not sure why Yers get caught up in dissing traditional and proven process &#8211; it&#8217;s usually the content and the context of the communications that&#8217;s new and original, not the process. </p>
<p>Shazz</p>
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